Would readers take a gondola to Dodger Stadium from Union Station?
A number of hundred individuals weighed in on a possible new technique to attain Dodgers video games, first proposed by then-owner Frank McCourt in 2018 and nonetheless alive, now shepherded by an environmental group that hopes to take automobiles off the streets and maintain pollution out of the air. We requested readers if they’d or wouldn’t use the gondola, or in the event that they weren’t positive.
By just some votes, “sure” obtained probably the most responses. Listed here are the areas that readers cited probably the most as elements of their choices:
Is Union Station simpler than Dodger Stadium tons?
A typical theme amongst respondents: Is the Union Station-to-Dodger Stadium route extra handy? Does it save time? For a lot of, the reply was a convincing no. However many individuals mentioned they’d use it for quite a lot of causes.
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If I arrive on the boarding station at an inexpensive time earlier than first pitch, what assure do I’ve that I can’t be caught in line fairly than within the stadium half-hour later? And, after the sport, the final of these followers received’t be boarding their journey again till 60-plus minutes postgame … standing in line. And that’s simply to get again to the station.
The Stadium wants higher entry — I can afford to go to video games, in respectable seats, however I select to not as a result of the visitors is ludicrous. The stadium desperately wants a number of accesses.
And … right this moment’s setting additionally calls for higher safety. Good luck to them in resolving their dilemma.
Reply: No
Chip Ossman, Altadena
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If enhancements in whole commute time and whole value have been a internet optimistic I might positively take it. If I’ve to Uber to the Expo Line to take it to Union Station after which get on the gondola, that seems like plenty of work and the prices add up. Particularly if we now have a gaggle.
Reply: Unsure
Patrick, Los Angeles
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I already park blocks away from the stadium and stroll there as a result of I detest the lot a lot. It’s straightforward to get into however a nightmare after the video games are over. A gondola would make going and leaving a lot simpler and take much less time.
Reply: Sure
Joe Kornbodt, Los Angeles
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How lengthy is the road going to be? The road for the present Union Station buses makes them impractical.
By my math and the numbers within the article (24 individuals each 23 seconds), it might take nearly three hours to maneuver the ten,000 followers the article talks about. One thing doesn’t add up.
Fwiw, I’ve shared season tickets with others since 1992 and go to about 15 video games a 12 months.
Reply: Unsure
Wesley Monroe, Pasadena
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We want extra public transportation in Los Angeles. How enjoyable and simple. Prepare to gondola to stadium. I might go see a live performance there if it have been that straightforward.
Reply: Sure
Tamra Davis, Malibu
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I might take the practice to L.A. from Ventura and never fear about visitors. I might positively come to extra video games.
Reply: Sure
Anita Guerrini, Ventura
Extra Frank McCourt?
Frank McCourt didn’t promote the Dodger Stadium parking tons when he offered the Dodgers for a billion-dollar revenue in 2012. As an alternative, profitable bidder Guggenheim Baseball Administration shaped a three way partnership with a McCourt entity to regulate the parking tons. Although Mark Walter, the Dodgers’ chairman and controlling proprietor, mentioned McCourt can’t develop something on the property with out Guggenheim’s consent, McCourt’s title was a trigger for concern for readers who provided their ideas.
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I drink beer earlier than entering into the stadium, my bladder couldn’t maintain it in for the seven minute (estimated journey time) and that’s together with the wait instances lol ….moreover, I hate that McCourt would someway be concerned with this …can’t stand the dude, for the way in which he handled our Dodgers….anyway simply my opinion ✌️
Reply: Unsure
Tony Perez, Los Angeles
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It might be an journey and add to the thrill of recreation day, like going to Philippe’s earlier than the sport. I’m not thrilled a few ton of improvement there. I can also’t consider a single one who likes the thought of giving a lot as a penny to Frank McCourt.
Reply: Sure
Dan McCarrel, Diamond Bar
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Parking just isn’t a nice expertise at Dodger Stadium. I am going to 20-plus video games a 12 months and park in Chinatown to keep away from the trouble. It’s a stroll of barely greater than a mile every approach and after the sport it’s downhill! A aspect bonus just isn’t paying McCourt any cash for parking. I might hate to help something that advantages the man who tried to destroy the house crew.
Reply: Unsure
Deborah Vogel, South Pasadena
Is it actually higher for the world?
It’s repulsive to me to have a gondola rising above the individuals and homes of the neighborhood who’re close to Dodger Stadium. That neighborhood has needed to endure visitors by the streets and now a gondola above them is horrible. The cons outweighs the professionals. That is one other instance of the wealthy exploiting the poor.
Reply: No
Susie Chow, Monterey Park
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I’m a resident locally and NO, I might not set foot on the gondola. Residents like me would boycott and protest the gondola if it have been constructed. This isn’t an iconic vacationer attraction or progressive inexperienced transit answer. That is an ill-conceived boondoggle that’s being pushed on us with a bunch of lies. If constructed, this gondola could be a monument to the exploitation and marginalization of our communities.
Apart from, what good is a seven-minute journey if it’s important to stand in line for an hour to board the gondola? And the place would everybody who drives to the gondola park? What good is it if the visitors is simply redirected into our neighborhoods as a substitute of into Dodger Stadium? This gondola might be a toy for a choose few. Does anybody actually imagine that the tickets will stay free, that they received’t ultimately jack up costs or cost an exorbitant membership price for individuals to leap the lengthy traces on the gondola stations? Nothing about this mission provides up.
Reply: No
Phyllis Ling, Los Angeles
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Individuals will both maintain driving to the Dodger Stadium parking tons, or they are going to drive to Chinatown with a purpose to hop on the gondola. This can flip the neighborhood of Chinatown into the Dodger Stadium car parking zone, which suggests Chinatown will tackle much more of the auto visitors, noise, trash and public urination from beer-imbibing Dodger followers, and its residents will discover all of their avenue parking disappear on recreation days. In the meantime, these gondola cabins are proposed to be flying overhead (and never very excessive overhead both) each 30 seconds or so all 12 months lengthy? In service fewer than 100 recreation days and live performance days? At a ticket value which stays unknown?
The stakeholders of Chinatown/Olvera Avenue have been by no means requested if we needed this — as a substitute, we have been informed that this was already within the works after which requested if we thought the renderings have been fairly. Individuals assume that the gondola cabins will soar excessive within the sky over Los Angeles, however they are going to principally be barely 30-40 toes above the pavement and above properties in some situations. They’ll lower down a swath of mature bushes on the L.A. State Historic Park with a purpose to make room for the brand new station and the flight path. That is info you possibly can solely entry in case you learn by the hundreds of pages of the DEIR (Draft Environmental Impression Report).
Reply: No
Tany Ling, Los Angeles
A matter of belief
Would wish to park and journey, simpler and sooner to simply drive to Dodger Stadium.
Additionally, many go away the stadium drunk or amped up, I might not wish to share a small gondola, particularly when with household.
Reply: No
Russ Randall, Santa Clarita
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My issues concerning the gondola embrace earthquakes and energy outages. What would occur to passengers in both case? Additionally what number of properties or companies would displaced? Dodger Stadium already has a tainted historical past in that regard.
Reply: Unsure
Lisa Babilonia, Nev.
Extra improvement?
I might take Metro and skip the visitors fully. It’s the one approach I’d take into account going to see a recreation — particularly if there are bars and eating places making it extra of an leisure vacation spot all 12 months. It’s properly previous time for residents and guests to the world to have the ability to go to main locations with no need to drive within the (world well-known!) dangerous visitors.
Reply: Sure
David Swift, Pasadena
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The gondola could be a world-class attraction for L.A.!! Give up worrying about who could revenue. I don’t like Frank any greater than you do, however having procuring, eating, and flats close to the ballpark is smart. Have a look at how Anaheim has created a complete residence village round their ballpark. It’s attracted hundreds of younger individuals who by no means would have thought-about Anaheim. We want extra housing. Everybody opposes city sprawl and constructing in fire-prone areas outdoors the town … everybody opposes constructing inside the town … that’s why there may be a lot corruption for getting buildings authorized by metropolis corridor. Is it any shock we now have a housing scarcity?!!! Embrace some reasonably priced housing so a few of the stadium employees dwell close by.
Reply: Sure
Dave Schafer, Torrance ::
Parking is dear and tough. Plus, the gondola additionally serves Cornfields Park and the eating places in that neighborhood for earlier than/after recreation enjoyable.
I additionally help redeveloping these parking tons into one thing much more helpful than black asphalt. It’s a disgraceful waste of land when there’s a possibility for the town to dealer a win-win-win state of affairs (extra parkland, much less floor parking, centrally positioned housing, and extra enticing retailers/companies/eating places). There’s additionally an opportunity to construct a complete neighborhood from a clear slate that includes right this moment’s finest practices for sustainability, walkability, and many others.
Reply: Sure
Jeff Farrington, Echo Park
